Sorry wasn't being a dick with the Henry Jackson thing, was just saying why are the BBC kinda stating the obvious with their article.marcus leong wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:43 amNo idea about henry jackson society.Martin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:53 amWell I am shocked.
Also even though it's hardly breaking news, The Henry Jackson Society is run by Douglas Murray isn't it? He's been saying this sort of stuff for years.
btw what did you think of that video I posted, did you manage to watch it in full? Was there anything you disagreed with?
Yes, manage to listen to it. Got to say, one of the best video i've see on this topic. I don't think I disagree with any points he brought up but not too sure about the one about moustache. Not disagreement but I'm not sure which hadith is he refering to.
A few points I like,
1. The chart he use to describe different type of muslim is so simple and accurate. I could name a name of each category from the people I know. Maybe not terrorist but the others.
2. I can't argue with the point about the raise of extremist with raise of Saudi Arabia. I see people over here that worship the saudis king. Instead of trying to more 'islamic', they try to be more arabic.
3. The phenomenon of hijab is enlighthening tbh. It make sense if I looked at what is happening around me and around the world.
4. The lung cancer analogy is brilliant. Smoking cause lung cancer but not all smokers get lung cancer.
5. There are more protest for the cartoon of charlie hebdu than the violence commit in the name of islam. This basically sum up my believe. If moderate muslim do not recognise and fight this radicalism, our effort is futile. No muslim listen to infidel.
Some points that I remember, might have more if I listen to it again.
Isis were defeated in Mosul because of Barack Obama's training strategies, says Pentagon official
While the Iraqi armed forces staged an exhausting nine-month siege around the city of Mosul, the US-led air campaign in Iraq and Syria initiated by the former president appears to have proved successful in weakening Isis forces.
The US and its allies, including but not limited to the UK, Canada, France, Germany, the Netherlands and Turkey, also provided continual training and advised proxy local forces without sending their own troops into action.
Pentagon officials told the AFP news agency that the outcome in Mosul was clear and that the Iraqi military had become a battle-hardened army which eventually prevailed.
One senior US military official who was deployed to Iraq from 2015 said the "training worked".
"It has enabled the Iraqis to take back their country," he said.
In 2014, when Isis invaded Iraq, security forces in the country were weak and seemed unable to cope with the Isis threat.
Before the coalition came in to provide training, an officer speaking to the AFP said Iraqi troops would often run without a fight, abandoning US-provided weaponry "surprising even Isis".
"We needed an army that could fight conventionally," the officer said.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 34196.html
Easy to get, kills lots of people. Isis said they would do this well before Europe opened the flood gates to these animals. They also said they would sneak jihadist in through mass groups of refugees. It's almost as if the elite politicians want this to happen, or exactly like they did.
This is harsh. There are some really fine people on both sides. Did you see the victims come out charging the van and get in the wayRelly wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2017 4:08 pmEasy to get, kills lots of people. Isis said they would do this well before Europe opened the flood gates to these animals. They also said they would sneak jihadist in through mass groups of refugees. It's almost as if the elite politicians want this to happen, or exactly like they did.
I wish it would but thoughts and prayers do fornicate all.
It started by the terrorists in Israel who couldn't get around bomb protection procedures and armed cops stopping knife attacks.
So you are enjoying English children being blown up when they go to a pop concert. I will never understand the mentality of people who can't admit that importing Islam isn't working.
interestingSandies wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:38 am
We had a similar attack in Melbourne in January by an ice addict with mental health issues. Since then we have put up bollards in the city to stop it reoccurring. Europe was warned and advised to do the same, Barcelona was one of the countries that ignored it
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