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Stand up for Big Sam!

Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:26 pm

'Sunderland have called for a quick resolution after Sam Allardyce was interviewed for the England job at the home of FA vice-chairman David Gill on Tuesday.'

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/ ... ngland-job

Finally, maybe we will get the first England manager appointment I can get enthusiastic about since Terry Venables.

Unless they go for Klinsman to teach them formation diving, of course, with Ashley in as a certain starter.

Who else would like to see Sam get it?



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Re: Stand up for Big Sam!

Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:30 pm

You are not boring enough?
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Re: Stand up for Big Sam!

Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:20 pm

Allardyce is a good manager. Has done a good job at numerous clubs. Won't take any shit.

It would be a decent appointment imo.

If anyone disagrees, who do you suggest instead?
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Re: Stand up for Big Sam!

Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:36 pm

Makes sense, I like him, good choice.
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Re: Stand up for Big Sam!

Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:38 pm

marcus leong wrote:You are not boring enough?
Have you got a bone to pick, Sonny?

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Re: RE: Re: Stand up for Big Sam!

Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:39 pm

DaveMart wrote:
marcus leong wrote:You are not boring enough?
Have you got a bone to pick, Sonny?
If you get Big Sam, you might as well get Van Gaal. Same boring shit but with better records.
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Re: Stand up for Big Sam!

Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:55 pm

Marcus:

I just realised that you were referring to England, rather than me personally!
I am boring, but I try not to drone on about it all the time.....;-)

As for Sam and England, he is certainly a pragmatist, but has used a more expansive style when he has the players available to make that practical.

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Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:34 pm

If the FA has to have an Englishman as manager then "Big Sam" is the man for the job. Personally I would like to see someone who the FA want in the job more than than the person wants the job. Similar to Bielsa at Lazio, he probably wouldn't last long but would never be boring.
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:17 pm

DaveMart wrote:Marcus:

I just realised that you were referring to England, rather than me personally!
I am boring, but I try not to drone on about it all the time.....;-)

As for Sam and England, he is certainly a pragmatist, but has used a more expansive style when he has the players available to make that practical.
Yes I did.

I honestly think Van Gaal is a good choice for England. You should start thinking more like Portugal than Germany.
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:56 pm

marcus leong wrote:
DaveMart wrote:Marcus:

I honestly think Van Gaal is a good choice for England. You should start thinking more like Portugal than Germany.
I watch football for pleasure, not punishment.
Both LVG and Portugal provided the latter, not the former.

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Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:03 pm

DaveMart wrote:
marcus leong wrote:
DaveMart wrote:Marcus:

I honestly think Van Gaal is a good choice for England. You should start thinking more like Portugal than Germany.
I watch football for pleasure, not punishment.
Both LVG and Portugal provided the latter, not the former.
Well with the players England have right now, I don't think you have a choice if you want results.
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Re: Stand up for Big Sam!

Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:05 pm

ArizonaRed wrote:If the FA has to have an Englishman as manager then "Big Sam" is the man for the job. Personally I would like to see someone who the FA want in the job more than than the person wants the job. Similar to Bielsa at Lazio, he probably wouldn't last long but would never be boring.
I don't agree with managers from other countries. If players have to be from the country so should managers, considering managers are more important than any one player, unless you have a superstar.

Although the lines of nationality are getting so blurred anymore international competition will be a farce in the not so distant future.
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Re: Stand up for Big Sam!

Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:49 pm

I think England (any country really) needs a manager who will not be a puppet or punching bag for the regional FA's. I agree that the manager is more important than any player and needs to be able to install the type of football that they believe will win and if the FA (and the media) doesn't agree with their method they need to have the balls to say stop interfering or fire me.
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Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:16 am

ArizonaRed wrote:I think England (any country really) needs a manager who will not be a puppet or punching bag for the regional FA's. I agree that the manager is more important than any player and needs to be able to install the type of football that they believe will win and if the FA (and the media) doesn't agree with their method they need to have the balls to say stop interfering or fire me.
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Re: Stand up for Big Sam!

Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:56 am

ArizonaRed wrote:If the FA has to have an Englishman as manager then "Big Sam" is the man for the job. Personally I would like to see someone who the FA want in the job more than than the person wants the job. Similar to Bielsa at Lazio, he probably wouldn't last long but would never be boring.
Im sure he will last more than 2 days
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Re: Stand up for Big Sam!

Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:58 am

I like the appointment of Big Sam, although I feel bad for Sunderland

I know its not the intentions of the FA admitting they need someone who can play to the strenghts of average players but it'll work out well for them
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Re: Stand up for Big Sam!

Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:39 pm

Lol, Sam Allardyce. On the basis of what? The FA seemingly only want to hire dinosaurs.

Actually, given the level England are at, I'd say someone like Allardyce is probably good for them.
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Re: Stand up for Big Sam!

Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:15 am

t.d. wrote:Lol, Sam Allardyce. On the basis of what? The FA seemingly only want to hire dinosaurs.

Actually, given the level England are at, I'd say someone like Allardyce is probably good for them.

The disaster will be if Big Sam ditch his normal approach because he got "better players".
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Re: Stand up for Big Sam!

Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:30 am

how is he any better than hodgson or maclaren?
backward move.

If you want an english manager, then must be harry redknapp??
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Re: Stand up for Big Sam!

Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:11 pm

HuSsAiN wrote:how is he any better than hodgson or maclaren?
backward move.
He is much better than Woy & Schteve.
If you want an english manager, then must be harry redknapp??
lol.
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Re: Stand up for Big Sam!

Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:14 am

t.d. wrote:Lol, Sam Allardyce. On the basis of what? The FA seemingly only want to hire dinosaurs.

Actually, given the level England are at, I'd say someone like Allardyce is probably good for them.
A few wins and you sound like a city fan.

Actually considering how shite England are at the moment they still managed to beat your lot didn't they? Probably owe that to bales team talk
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Re: Stand up for Big Sam!

Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:18 pm

Short Back and Sides wrote:
t.d. wrote:Lol, Sam Allardyce. On the basis of what? The FA seemingly only want to hire dinosaurs.

Actually, given the level England are at, I'd say someone like Allardyce is probably good for them.
A few wins and you sound like a city fan.

Actually considering how shite England are at the moment they still managed to beat your lot didn't they? Probably owe that to bales team talk
:laugh: (bah)

The only thing you have to cheer about us narrowly beating Wales. Jog on. :party:

Anyway, Allardyce is a dinosaur. Dunno why you brought up Wales. Trying to leach onto some success?
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Re: Stand up for Big Sam!

Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:02 am

So he pick Rooney as captain, nothing new yet. WIll drinkwater overlooked again?

Hopefully Rashford continue to play in under21.
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Re: Stand up for Big Sam!

Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:56 am

Isn't Drinkwater in the squad?

Jack Wheelchair is not though, which is great news.
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Re: Stand up for Big Sam!

Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:47 am

Dante wrote:Isn't Drinkwater in the squad?

Jack Wheelchair is not though, which is great news.
He already announce his squad?
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